Seduction is a focus on the arts of attraction. It enables the "seduce" diplomacy option, focusing your seduction attempts on a specific character.
The seduction focus is useful for increasing opinion and gaining lovers. It allows both men and women to produce large numbers of bastard children, which can be legitimized into the player's dynasty and inherit titles from both parents.
Seduction skill
Success in many seduction events gives a chance to "level up" in skill: first to Aspiring Seducer, then Seducer, then optionally to or . Each level significantly improves chance of success in both targeted seduction and random seduction events. In the final event, you also have the option of taking or declining the lifestyle traits; these options both leave you at the Seducer level.
Targeted seduction
你可以在外交菜單中選擇一個角色進行引誘。 你們都必須是自由的有能力的成年人,被對方的性別所吸引,而不是單身。 你不能再誘惑你的愛人,你以前的愛人,你的父母,或者你的孩子。 你不能用這種方式誘惑你的配偶或小妾:相反,他們可以分別通過需要家庭或誘惑焦點的隨機事件成為情人。 你不能同時誘惑一個以上的人。 If the seduce action is not available in the target's diplomacy screen, you may already be seducing someone else. You can either wait for the previous seduction event to resolve, or you can right-click your own portrait to Stop seducing.
After selecting a love interest, you will occasionally make a "move": either an attempt to increase opinion or an attempt to bed. Your character automatically makes this choice based on their personal opinion of you. Personal opinion is similar to opinion, but does not take state diplomacy, laws or any other such state concerns into account.
- With personal opinion below 0, the seducer will always attempt to woo.
- With personal opinion between 0 and 39, there is a 61% chance to attempt to woo and a 39% chance to attempt to bed.
- With personal opinion 40+, the seducer will always attempt to bed.
Moves normally happen every 20–40 days. If the seducer is a man and his love interest is a queen+ (or wife/consort of a king+), moves happen every 60–90 days instead. Large distances also make moves less frequent.
If some situations, the moves may not be successful in creating an opportunity, so you may be prompted to stop seducing or asked if you want to continue the seduction attempt. (Unlike swaying, once seduction has been successful, the love interest either becomes a lover, or you leave them. The seduction action is then complete, and you are free to pursue someone else.)
Attempts to woo
Wooing attempts come in three flavors: "love letter", "gift", and "gossip". In each case, the wooed character can choose to be attracted (+25 for 60 months), repelled (-15 for 24 months), or silent.
AI response depends not on current opinion, but on traits: the personality of the target, the "seduction level" of the seducer, and relative attractiveness (genetic traits).
Attempts to bed
There are three flavors with varying complexity. Success always depends on seduction level, personal opinion (boosts at +20, +40, and +60), and whether or not the target is a close relative, (decreased chance of success unless target is Messalian , , , , or ) but can also depend on the choices you make.
Dance
Dancing is the simplest flavor. The target gets two chances to accept or reject. If encouraged, the seducer can then choose to increase opinion (+20 yearning for 24 months) or attempt a tumble. Again, the target can accept or rebuff, with AI response depending on opinion and the seducer's level.
Kitchen meeting
In this flavor, you make a choice that affects your chance of success.
- Confess love: good on targets who are , , , , , age under 25
- Lewd suggestion: good on targets who are , , , . Bad on women under 25 unless they are lustful.
- Quote poetry: good on targets who are , , , high learning, high theology education. Half base chance of other options.
- Sexy whisper: highest chance of success, but only available to masters of seduction
- Ask about star sign: good on targets who are , , , or fellow members of the Hermetics society. The seducer must be a member of the Hermetics. More likely to succeed if the seducer is a rank 3 or higher Hermetic.
Court picnic
The picnic flavor is the most complex. Hoping to get the target alone, you have three choices with different risks and rewards.
- Find an ally
- The friend can assist (resulting in choices similar to the kitchen meeting), refuse, or tip off the target's spouse
- Leave a note
- Everyone in the target's court has a chance to enter a lottery to find the note:
- 100%: The target
- 50%: Anyone who already has an opinion modifier indicating they suspect you (e.g. "Seducing my spouse")
- 10%: Spouse, father, or liege
- 2%: Other courtiers
- If found by a spouse who is also a ruler, you will be imprisoned, and you probably won't be able to ransom your way out (-100 "rival" and -25 "chasing spouse")
- Everyone in the target's court has a chance to enter a lottery to find the note:
- Flirt discretely
- Opinion boost without tumble
Tumbling
As with other WoL "unprotected sex" events, there is a chance of pregnancy:
- Only if the man is not an eunuch, and the woman is under 45 and has at least 3 health
- Doubled for each character with at least one of the following fertility-increasing traits:
- Halved for each character with at least one of the following fertility-decreasing traits:
Along with a 50% chance to transmit certain diseases:
- Only if one of the characters is infected with Lover's Pox, Great Pox, or Aztec Disease
After the wild night, you get a choice about how to continue the relationship:
- Make them your lover, for a +40 opinion boost and a moderate ongoing chance of pregnancy
- Cease seduction
- Continue seduction (by re-selecting them the next day)
You also get a hidden level up event:
- Chance to gain (or lose )
- Chance to level up seduction skill
- Chance to level up intrigue education
- Chance to gain 'court tomcat' or 'court vixen' character modifier
There may be a chance of discovery and scandal; see below.
Scandal
After a tumble, a courtier of the seduced target's court might notice if:
- Is an adult, not blinded, not leading armies, not a prisoner, and does not have a regent
- Is not a spouse or concubine of either paramour
- Either:
- Suspects the seducer (opinion modifiers "Seducing my friend", "Seducing my child", or "Seducing my spouse")
- Both:
- Has a reason to watch the seducer or target (liege, rival, close relative, lover, or suspects the seducer)
- Has intrigue skill at least as high as both the seducer and the target
Unlike the risk in the "leave a note to meet by the stream" event, the courtier noticing here does not have to be at the same location.
One random eligible character gets a 25% chance to notice. If the character suspects the seducer or beats both paramours by 3 intrigue, they get a 50% chance instead.
A character who notices can:
- Go public (likely if )
- Let it pass (likely if ) (never, if rival of either character)
- Blackmail the seducer (for 20% of yearly income) (likely if ) (cannot blackmail own children or unmarried men in minor scandals) (cannot blackmail if spouse or consort of either character)
The effects of a publicized scandal are generally worse for the seducer, for women, and for married characters. If there are multiple reasons for a relationship to be scandalous, all effects apply, with the exception of the effects below "close relative" when it applies.
Character | Effects if seducer | Effects if seduced |
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Both male |
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Both female |
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None |
The older character Age difference ≥ 25 |
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Priest, monk, or nun Christian |
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Close relative |
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Married man |
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Woman |
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Man Seduced a female ruler |
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N/A |
Random events
- Flirting at confession (if Christian)
- Seduce guard (if attracted to men)
- Seduce maid (if attracted to women)
- Seduce rose bush (if and attracted to women)
- Seduce centaur (if and attracted to men)
- Seduce jailer (if female and imprisoned)
- Chance of discovery or escape
- Seduce concubine
- Chance to forgive abduction, increase opinion, decrease opinion, become lover
策略
勾引你的未來配偶 是他/她變成你的情人,在成婚後提升態度和生育率
- 不需要擔心懷孕。你可以將孩子合法化,並且你的配偶會高興的
- 確保你的「未來配偶」不會嫁給別人!把對方接到宮廷或者訂婚來阻止對方結婚
重複一夜情能顯著提升懷孕率。選擇愛他但是離開,然後第二天立刻重新勾引對方!
生很多孩子, 形成許多 同盟, 具體包括:
- 只合法化少量孩子/繼承人.
- 全部合法化,然後充分利用大家族的優勢 get your grandchildren on all the thrones.
使你的孩子具有外國頭銜 通過勾引統治者或者繼承人. 關注 長子繼承制 和 分封繼承制 的頭銜, 因為這些的繼承可以預測. 你也可以讓你的孩子成為 選舉繼承制 頭銜的競選者.
Make your children claimants on foreign titles. You may be able to press their claims for easy expansion. If you educate them with the target realm's culture and good ruler traits, unhappy vassals may support them as faction claimants. High diplomacy and also improve their chances of becoming adventurers, and you can join their adventure wars.
對於女性
給丈夫一頂原諒帽: 女性可以讓她的丈夫不知道自己被綠了. 最好選擇具有 的丈夫, 或者當你具有較高的陰謀屬性,也可以愚弄陰謀屬性很低的丈夫
合法化: 女性可以讓自己的孩子具有其父親的頭銜繼承權。這需要被勾引的對方選擇 承認是我的孩子但是不合法化, 之後你可以將孩子合法化進你的家族。為了最小化對方否認孩子的概率,你應該勾引那些具備, ,並且不是狂熱基督徒的人物。你應該尤其注意避免勾引50歲以上並沒有孩子的領主,因為他們很有可能直接選擇合法化私生子
這個策略的開銷取決於你是否結婚。如果你沒結婚,你會因為未婚先孕損失50點虔誠,並在之後合法化的時候花費20點虔誠。如果你結婚了,你的丈夫必須具備足夠的陰謀水平來發現孩子的親生父親(具有 的丈夫是個不錯的選擇)並且你會得到一個淫婦的debuff
對於男性
One strategy is to seduce unmarried women in other courts (so you're safe if someone finds a note), and then invite or marry them into your court once they are pregnant (so the children are under your control). Note that as of 2.4.3, "unimportant" lowborn characters in a large court will die quickly, and being your lover or pregnant with your child does not qualify them as important. Getting them married does.
勾引未婚女性,或者具有 丈夫的女性,可以讓你有最高機會承認孩子是你的
As the known father, you can legitimize bastard children at birth for free. You can also legitimize children later by spending piety, like mothers can, but you must ensure the child is under your control (they will normally be in the mother's court).
你可以通過勾引同家族的已婚女性擴大家族的規模.注意苦主的特質(/ )以及陰謀能力,不要被發現了!
如果你只想有私生子後代(比如使用選舉繼承法時可以只把繼承人合法化),考慮和不能生育的女性結婚(年齡大於45)
Staying safe
Avoid scandal by finding or creating opportunities where no character is eligible to notice. In particular, your intrigue skill or your target's intrigue skill should exceed that of everyone in the target's court who is the target's {liege, parent, child, or sibling}.
Don't leave a note if seducing the unlanded spouse of a ruler, as this evidence can land you in prison. Also be wary of leaving a note if the target is important to you. If another character finds it, they will start watching you (Seducing my friend, etc), making it unsafe to continue pursuing the target.
Protect yourself and your children against plots. Your spouse should have low intrigue, and preferably be or so they cannot start a murder plot. Ideally your spymaster has high intrigue (to improve plot discovery chance), high opinion of your children, and high AI honor.
Avoid being cuckolded
Rulers have several reasons to care about their spouse's fidelity. You may be concerned for the health of your spouse, hoping for predictable succession, or simply jealous.
Of particular concern (to male rulers) is a wife becoming pregnant with another man's child. This can be important with gavelkind succession, or if you have positive genetic traits you want your children to inherit. If you have low intrigue skill or are , you're unlikely to even find out whether your wife's children are your own.
Here are some tips for ensuring your wife's fidelity:
Avoid marrying women who are:
- : they are very likely to be targeted for seduction, though they do tend to reject attempts.
- : they are likely to fall for seduction attempts. On the flip-side, lustful increases fertility.
Marry a woman who is:
- unlikely to be targeted. (AI rulers will never target women who are , , , , , , , . However, this might cause congenital traits to find their way into your dynasty!)
- a lesbian. ( women will never cheat on you with another man. They may sleep with other women, but they will not get pregnant this way. On the flipside, they also have reduced fertility. A lustful lesbian is a good compromise as they still have +5% fertility.)
- "rejecting seduction attempts". (Women with this modifier will not cheat on you. The modifier does however wear off.)
Become your wife's lover. AI rulers will never try to seduce a character who has a lover and isn't (lustful, , a master of seduction, or a ruler using the seduction focus).
Imprison your wife. Women in jail cannot cheat on you. Their skills still contribute to your state attributes, though their diplomacy skill will be reduced.
Assign your wife to lead troops. Characters leading troops cannot seduce or be seduced. This is only possible under a few circumstances.
Eliminate seducers from the realm. AI rulers only seduce within the same realm. You may be able to kill, castrate, imprison, or unland them. For direct vassals, you can instead appoint them as commanders and have them constantly lead troops.
Turn the Way of Life DLC off. No one can choose the seduction focus (or any other focus) and target your wife. There are still events in the vanilla game which can cause your wife to be unfaithful, especially if she is a ruler with a ranking higher or equal to count. It is also possible to disable AI seduction using a game rule while leaving the rest of the DLC enabled.